HRL Interviews Stephen Fearing
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Laura Fernandez joins Stephen Fearing at The Paradise Theatre, Laura wears a white blouse and Stephen is wearing a plaid shirt.
Hi everyone and welcome to Hugh’s Room Live Green Room Sessions.
My name is Laura Fernandez and I’m thrilled on behalf of the team at Hugh’s Room Live to present this series of interviews with musicians and artists and we’re very grateful to the Canada Council for supporting this series and funding it.
We’re here tonight with Stephen Fearing, a highly acclaimed singer, songwriter, performer, and farmer. and storyteller. Stephen’s career spans four decades.
Along with his solo career, he is co -founder of the famous Canadian supergroup Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, as well as Fearing and White with Irish musician Andy White.
We’re thrilled to have him here for the green room sessions. Stephen, you were born in Vancouver but you were raised in Ireland. It’s a country that has an incredible tradition of song and live performance.
Do you think that influenced your desire to become an artist and a performer, a singer -songwriter? – Yeah, definitely, I mean, definitely. It’s, in some ways,
it influenced me most because being an artist is not a weird thing there ’cause everybody is, and you know, sometimes in very informal ways. It’s not an artist.
artist, but an artist. Lots of, everybody’s a storyteller, everybody’s, there’s a term called the crack, which is sort of a, it’s having fun,
it’s called, you know, if you go out for a night and the crack is really good, then it means it was a great night, and it’s, there’s an actual term for it. So Ireland is a country of storytellers and artists,
and so, it’s, it was inspiring in that way because if you say you’re an artist in Ireland, nobody raises an eyebrows. Like, oh yeah, well, join the gang. Whereas in North America,
people go, oh, well, you know, how do you make a living at that? And they sort of step back. But yeah, so it’s very inspiring. – And how important is it for you to perform in an intimate setting such as this theater,
Hugh’s Room Live, the Sessions? Does it mean more to you? to perform to a smaller intimate audience? – I’ve only had the experience of performing in very large situations a few times in my life,
and I find it much more difficult because I’m so used to smaller venues. So probably the most comfortable is like a 400 seat, old wooden hall where you can hear yourself.
I love to hear my own voice go out into the room. room but you know I’ve done a lot of house concerts where there’s like 40 people and they’re right there and You have to sort of get comfortable with that kind of exposure because when you’re in a house concert sitting you are very very Exposed and it takes a little getting used to if you’re used to being on a stage like this where there’s you know Backstage and
monitors and lights and there’s a certain amount of shielding between you and and the crowd. So in some ways the more intimate it gets, the more intense it gets and if you’re comfortable with that then you can have a really interesting time.
Given that you’ve worked alongside many wonderful collaborators, highly talented people, how important is collaborating for you, for your personal growth as an artist?
Very important. There’s definitely a… a point where you get tired of your own bullshit, so to speak, your own ideas. So,
I draw a line between the idea of songwriter and singer -songwriter. To me, even though I am a singer -songwriter, in that I perform my own stuff, I don’t think of myself as a singer -songwriter in the genre because I find the genre kind of boring because it’s all about me and it’s…
songs like confessional songs and for sure I write, you know, write what you know so you write about your own experience but the collaboration with other people is hugely important for me to bring in other ideas and other energy and kind of throw me off out of my comfort zone.
So, working with Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, working with other bands, other writers. all of those things have kind of pushed me into different scenarios.
>>> This particular group of musicians that you’re performing with, I understand that you met them when you were in Europe and you decided to collaborate with them. What was it about them that made you want to record and bring them here to North America for this tour?
>>> Well, we’ve been working together since… since 2017, and we formally met in 2017 through the generosity of an artist named Jonathan Bird,
who’s from the States, and I was following him on Instagram, and I thought, geez, I want to do some of the touring he’s doing. So I wrote to him and said, who’s your contact? And he gave me MC,
who’s the guitar player, his email. And I wrote to him, and the whole thing moved very quickly. The music business is often kind of about bashing yourself against doors that remain firmly closed.
But in this instance it opened immediately and it was like come on in. So I found myself six months later flying to Denmark for a ten day tour thinking oh this could be really bad like it could be really awkward because I didn’t know these people and it was wonderful.
They’re well prepared they’re really nice. nice, normal, trustworthy, solid people, they’re all family people, so we got along great. And I wanted to bring them here because so much of what we’ve done has been in Europe,
which is there more familiar with than me, but often stuff that they actually set up, like in Denmark, and the arts in Denmark is very supported by the Danish government, so I kind of felt like,
I felt like I had to… put some more skin in the game if you will by bringing them here and sort of introducing them to my audience and also you know so much of this business is about a story and so Stephen Fearing with a band of Canadian musicians if you’re a fan of mine you know maybe it’s fun to see me play with a band or maybe you prefer me solo but if I’m playing with a band of Danish musicians then
it’s like immediately they there’s questions and that’s what the story is. So to me it just seemed like a really good idea and it has been. It’s worked really well. This is your first tour outside of Europe. Tell us a little bit about this album and what it means to you,
especially having come out of the pandemic and going out again into the world with this project. Well, there’s two sides to the record and one side,
side B, is a… concert from 2018, six songs, well five songs on the vinyl and five songs is from 2022.
The material all is drawn either from an album I put out in 2018 called Every Souls a Sailor or an album I put out at the end of 2019 called The Unconquerable Past.
So I was one of those artists who released an album. in 2019, got about, well I got a bunch of touring in Europe but none in Canada with, which is where I live and tour and then everything shut down for two years.
So nobody heard the record and it’s really difficult to build up the momentum that you have to have as an independent artist to write the material to perform,
record, produce the artwork, all that stuff. And then it just stops. So it was a bit of a heartbreaker for me to sort of not feel like anybody got to hear this material.
And yet I couldn’t re -release it because it’s, you know, what’s done is done. So I thought, well, what if I re -imagined some of these songs and record them with these Danish guys who are familiar with the material because we had toured in Europe in January?
February of 2020. What about if I go there and record with them some place in Denmark? Would that be enough to sort of create momentum again?
Because frankly, you know, I have to go write another 10, 12 songs to create a new record. And I wasn’t able to do that during COVID. I wasn’t one of those artists that was able to sort of go,
“Oh, great, I got all this.” time on my hands. Now I can write an album. It was totally the opposite for me. I wanted nothing to do with it because I just was feeling sore because this album that I had put my heart and soul into was kind of dead in the water.
So that’s what this record is. It’s kind of a reimagining of some of those songs. And then the other side of the record was an album, it was a concert I recorded in 2018. in Hamilton with a very dear friend of mine named Bob Lanois who’s passed on and so Bob and his brother Dan created Grand Avenue Studios in Hamilton and obviously Dan Lanois has gone on to be one of the most famous producers in the world and but
his brother Bob was equally eccentric, talented as a sound engineer. but also a photographer and I really,
Bob and I, I got to be friends with him and so when I was thinking about how to make this record I realized that I had this recording in the can and when Bob passed away I went and listened to it again and thought yeah I can really make this work and it kind of bookends for me 2018 to 2022.
It kind of bookends this. this experience that we’ve all gone through. – What’s next for you after this tour? – Well, I just wanted to say the album’s called Vi -Poesy because that means road poetry and that if you’re wondering how the hell do you pronounce that,
that’s how you pronounce it. What’s next for me is writing and thinking about another album, which I’m starting to work towards now. I’ve written about five songs.
I want to. write another 10 songs if I can to go in with see nowadays 10 or 12 songs max the whole CD you know 17 to 20 songs things like we were all making double albums for a long time and I don’t really see the point in that if I can create 10 songs that I really love or pull 10 out of the 20 that I wrote that are the best that’s what I want to do so that’s what I’m going to be doing for the next
six, eight months and still playing solo shows, shows with the Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, you know, earning a living, all that. >> Thank you so much for being here,
Stephen, it’s been such a pleasure to have you as our guest here on the Green Room Sessions. >> Thank you. >> Look forward to your performance. >> Totally my pleasure. I am most grateful to you guys for doing this,
so thanks. >> He was released 13 months ago. solo albums, 11 studio albums, with Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, two Fearing and White albums. I want you to please give a big hand and welcome to this huge room live stage at the Paradise,
Stephen Fearing and the Sentimentals. Well I went so fast for years and thought the price was tears and a woman was the key A look for love and comfort everywhere I learned to stare but I never learned to see And I was playing some casino,
there you were, beside the spinning wheel of fortune, my prime stoner. When I was young and innocent,
I mostly felt just awkward and naive. And I wanted to be older with my coats when on my shoulder The heart of my sleeve But when I finally found the stillness in myself I started wondering just how many years were left of all the self Time is a lot of time We’ve gone on the river Till the rivers run dry Time is a love of mine Is it taken together?
It’s as slow as we all are All the time We’ve made love among the ruins We’ve made music out of it of all that history We found joy as the summer wade,
winter blue leaves off the trees And we measured all the sweetness that we found Against the bitter times of waiting ‘Til the good times come ’round Time makes a love of mine With gold on the river ‘Til the bitter’s not dry Time makes a love of mine Is a janker and a giver Is a small dance and we all want won’t Heaven is a feeling it’s a peaceful swim day mornin’ Cup of tea It’s my shelter from the storm When I
know the storm is waiting for me Now when I’m far away and down to the bone Trying to see my way together Trying to get back home Time is a love of mine We’ve gone on the river ’til the rivers run dry Time is a love of mine It’s a ticket that it gives us money It’s a ticket that we owe all hope for the right time ♪ – Thank you so much.
– Thank you so much for watching. There are 10 interviews in this series, so please stay tuned for the next one.